will president obama compromise? >> i'm not sure he is going to compromise on this debt ceiling fight. it is important to talk about the broader contours of this actual debate. a year and a half ago we had an increase of 1 $2.1 trillion. and we are through that. and now we are up to $17 trillion. so, in my view to be candid. there is only one party that is remotely serious about dealing with this party. if we are talking tactics, what do you do if you are house republicans? you have leverage. you have talked about them already on this show. one of them is the debt ceiling fight. and the final one is the continuing resolution which is the stop gap thing because we haven't had a budget for four years. i agree with you. i think the president has the high ground there. he has a big weapon in his arsenal there. you have to give the president his way on that. >> if you pay the debt but you have to apportion out the money, the term for that is default. >> mark, my basic view is this is going to get done. but i'd like to mov